[Ground-station] Ground-Station Digest, Vol 18, Issue 16

Tue Oct 1 10:57:11 PDT 2019

I fully agree with your point 2. What is the best way to progress the space
segment, start pulling together a system level definition on the github
space repository?

I have experience doing satellite design at a top nanosatellite
manufacturer plus ESA project tech R&D at the IC design level so I can hit
the ground running but also don't want to clash with other work you may
have done.

Cheers,
Thomas

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>       launch philosophy (Michelle Thompson)
>    3. Re: Launch opportunity - 6U or 12U CubeSat - Jan/Feb 2020 -
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>    4. Re: Launch opportunity - 6U or 12U CubeSat - Jan/Feb 2020 -
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 16:32:19 +0000
> From: "Leffke, Zachary" <zleffke at vt.edu>
> To: Michelle Thompson via Ground-Station
>         <ground-station at lists.openresearch.institute>
> Subject: Re: [Ground-station] Please vote - Ambasat sensor
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> Carrier/Beacon at 10G? atmega328 to handle CW IDing every so often?
> Obviously less operational ground stations, but might encourage the
> construction of 10G ground stations (Ku PLL LNB, bias-t, FCDPP or RTLSDR),
> which fuels the five/dime drive.  Baby steps toward 10G amateur satellite
> spectrum use?  Doppler at 10G from LEO should be fun.  Antenna would be
> compact, maybe a patch on one side of a 4-layer board and components on the
> other....room for the solar cells?
>
> This looks like the big brother of the Kicksats.....hardest part looks
> like power from the solar cells....2.2V @ 80mA according to their website.
> They do specifically say in their FAQs that you can't add another
> radio.....but sounds like they could be convinced.
>
> Good stuff.  I'd be interested in ANY beacon on ANY band, Doppler is fun.
>
> -Zach, KJ4QLP
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ground-Station <ground-station-bounces at lists.openresearch.institute>
> On Behalf Of Jim Tittsler via Ground-Station
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 4:54 AM
> To: ground-station at lists.openresearch.institute
> Subject: Re: [Ground-station] Please vote - Ambasat sensor
>
> On 2019-09-29 3:52 a.m., Douglas Quagliana via Ground-Station wrote:
> > The idea was to have a very simple crystal oscillator (perhaps a very
> > small milliwatt class amplifier) and an antenna
> > such that the oscillator's signal (with Doppler) can be detected on
> > the ground.  No data, just a carrier that a
> > ground station with a simple antenna and perhaps a FunCube or RTLSDR
> > dongle can detect.
>
> Or perhaps two phase locked beacons on 144 & 430 so that differences in
> Doppler might be detected?  That was an ionospheric/environmental
> experiment implemented in (the yet to fly) KiwiSAT.
>   http://kiwisat.org.nz/beacon.html
>
> Jim 7J1AJH / ZL2IA
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 06:54:51 -0700
> From: Michelle Thompson <mountain.michelle at gmail.com>
> To: Michelle Thompson via Ground-Station
>         <ground-station at lists.openresearch.institute>
> Cc: Pierros Papadeas <pierros at papadeas.gr>, Bdale Garbee
>         <bdale at gag.com>
> Subject: [Ground-station] Launch opportunity - 6U or 12U CubeSat -
>         Jan/Feb 2020 - launch philosophy
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> Through Virginia Tech (thank you!), we've been informed of a launch
> opportunity for a 6U or 12U CubeSat launch this coming JAN/FEB 2020 that
> would be free to anyone who can make a delivery by the end of this year.
> The institutions involved in getting this message to us were Virginia Tech,
> Virginia Space Consortium, and the Colorado Space Grant Consortium. The
> offer is from the California Space Grant Consortium. I have names and
> numbers and the office is up the street here in San Diego at UCSD.
>
> 1) This is really aggressive schedule. Let's see who we know and what we
> can do. Do we know of anyone, anywhere (preferably with Phase 4 Ground
> relevant hardware) to move on this, right now?
>
> 2) Another contact emphasized having something "on the shelf" to go was the
> right approach. They have had a number of partner offers to get free rides.
>
> I would like everyone to pay close attention to item 2. This is essentially
> our philosophy with Phase 4 Space and is why we wrote the ARDC proposal. It
> is the point of the paper Howie DeFelice and I wrote for QEX couple of
> years ago about space industry changes and how they would affect AMSAT-NA.
> It is why I volunteer to do this full time. We can get a launch if we have
> something built.
>
> We cannot wait for launches to start work or raise money.
>
> Real opportunities like this one are the reason we are "paying it forward"
> by working on all the required technology to get an advanced digital
> payload built.
>
> Can we take advantage of this (or help another project) through our
> network? Does anyone know of a CubeSat that needs a launch? Even if we do
> not directly benefit, getting open source, scientific, and amateur payloads
> of any type a launch serves the community.
>
> Spread the word, ask around, and let's see what we can accomplish with this
> opportunity!
>
> Worst case? We meet more people, learn more things, and get better insight
> into future launch opportunities and the processes required to take
> advantage of them.
>
> -Michelle W5NYV
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> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 09:27:40 -0500
> From: KC9SGV <kc9sgv at gmail.com>
> To: Michelle Thompson <mountain.michelle at gmail.com>
> Cc: Michelle Thompson via Ground-Station
>         <ground-station at lists.openresearch.institute>,  Bdale Garbee
>         <bdale at gag.com>, Pierros Papadeas <pierros at papadeas.gr>
> Subject: Re: [Ground-station] Launch opportunity - 6U or 12U CubeSat -
>         Jan/Feb 2020 - launch philosophy
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> What an incredible opportunity !
> Will repost this on https://groups.io/g/GEO, with permission ?
> And Twitter.
> See, it is the old "technology push versus technology pull" conundrum.
> I.e., not ready with technology push when the opportunity arises.
> An analog hardware, ready to fly 6U cubesat ham band transponder, would
> have been great to have now....
> KISS.
> My humble opinion.
>
> Bernard,
> KC9SGV
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Sep 30, 2019, at 8:54 AM, Michelle Thompson via Ground-Station
> <ground-station at lists.openresearch.institute> wrote:
> >
> > Through Virginia Tech (thank you!), we've been informed of a launch
> opportunity for a 6U or 12U CubeSat launch this coming JAN/FEB 2020 that
> would be free to anyone who can make a delivery by the end of this year.
> The institutions involved in getting this message to us were Virginia Tech,
> Virginia Space Consortium, and the Colorado Space Grant Consortium. The
> offer is from the California Space Grant Consortium. I have names and
> numbers and the office is up the street here in San Diego at UCSD.
> >
> > 1) This is really aggressive schedule. Let's see who we know and what we
> can do. Do we know of anyone, anywhere (preferably with Phase 4 Ground
> relevant hardware) to move on this, right now?
> >
> > 2) Another contact emphasized having something "on the shelf" to go was
> the right approach. They have had a number of partner offers to get free
> rides.
> >
> > I would like everyone to pay close attention to item 2. This is
> essentially our philosophy with Phase 4 Space and is why we wrote the ARDC
> proposal. It is the point of the paper Howie DeFelice and I wrote for QEX
> couple of years ago about space industry changes and how they would affect
> AMSAT-NA. It is why I volunteer to do this full time. We can get a launch
> if we have something built.
> >
> > We cannot wait for launches to start work or raise money.
> >
> > Real opportunities like this one are the reason we are "paying it
> forward" by working on all the required technology to get an advanced
> digital payload built.
> >
> > Can we take advantage of this (or help another project) through our
> network? Does anyone know of a CubeSat that needs a launch? Even if we do
> not directly benefit, getting open source, scientific, and amateur payloads
> of any type a launch serves the community.
> >
> > Spread the word, ask around, and let's see what we can accomplish with
> this opportunity!
> >
> > Worst case? We meet more people, learn more things, and get better
> insight into future launch opportunities and the processes required to take
> advantage of them.
> >
> > -Michelle W5NYV
> >
> >
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 07:37:11 -0700
> From: Michelle Thompson <mountain.michelle at gmail.com>
> To: KC9SGV <kc9sgv at gmail.com>
> Cc: Bdale Garbee <bdale at gag.com>, Michelle Thompson via Ground-Station
>         <ground-station at lists.openresearch.institute>,  Pierros Papadeas
>         <pierros at papadeas.gr>
> Subject: Re: [Ground-station] Launch opportunity - 6U or 12U CubeSat -
>         Jan/Feb 2020 - launch philosophy
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> This would not be GEO, from what I was told. Please share wherever
> appropriate.
>
> Any amateur communications is good. Any launch utilized that would
> otherwise be concrete or go empty is good.
>
> Insisting on the technology equivalent of film photography for amateur
> satellites is stopping well short of our capabilities as an international
> community of technical hams. But, if we could get to both/and and not stay
> stuck on either/or then I would view that in and of itself as a great
> victory!
>
> -Michelle W5NYV
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 07:27 KC9SGV <kc9sgv at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > What an incredible opportunity !
> > Will repost this on https://groups.io/g/GEO, with permission ?
> > And Twitter.
> > See, it is the old "technology push versus technology pull" conundrum.
> > I.e., not ready with technology push when the opportunity arises.
> > An analog hardware, ready to fly 6U cubesat ham band transponder, would
> > have been great to have now....
> > KISS.
> > My humble opinion.
> >
> > Bernard,
> > KC9SGV
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > > On Sep 30, 2019, at 8:54 AM, Michelle Thompson via Ground-Station
> > <ground-station at lists.openresearch.institute> wrote:
> > >
> > > Through Virginia Tech (thank you!), we've been informed of a launch
> > opportunity for a 6U or 12U CubeSat launch this coming JAN/FEB 2020 that
> > would be free to anyone who can make a delivery by the end of this year.
> > The institutions involved in getting this message to us were Virginia
> Tech,
> > Virginia Space Consortium, and the Colorado Space Grant Consortium. The
> > offer is from the California Space Grant Consortium. I have names and
> > numbers and the office is up the street here in San Diego at UCSD.
> > >
> > > 1) This is really aggressive schedule. Let's see who we know and what
> we
> > can do. Do we know of anyone, anywhere (preferably with Phase 4 Ground
> > relevant hardware) to move on this, right now?
> > >
> > > 2) Another contact emphasized having something "on the shelf" to go was
> > the right approach. They have had a number of partner offers to get free
> > rides.
> > >
> > > I would like everyone to pay close attention to item 2. This is
> > essentially our philosophy with Phase 4 Space and is why we wrote the
> ARDC
> > proposal. It is the point of the paper Howie DeFelice and I wrote for QEX
> > couple of years ago about space industry changes and how they would
> affect
> > AMSAT-NA. It is why I volunteer to do this full time. We can get a launch
> > if we have something built.
> > >
> > > We cannot wait for launches to start work or raise money.
> > >
> > > Real opportunities like this one are the reason we are "paying it
> > forward" by working on all the required technology to get an advanced
> > digital payload built.
> > >
> > > Can we take advantage of this (or help another project) through our
> > network? Does anyone know of a CubeSat that needs a launch? Even if we do
> > not directly benefit, getting open source, scientific, and amateur
> payloads
> > of any type a launch serves the community.
> > >
> > > Spread the word, ask around, and let's see what we can accomplish with
> > this opportunity!
> > >
> > > Worst case? We meet more people, learn more things, and get better
> > insight into future launch opportunities and the processes required to
> take
> > advantage of them.
> > >
> > > -Michelle W5NYV
> > >
> > >
> >
> --
> -Michelle W5NYV
>
> "Potestatem obscuri lateris nescis."
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