[Board] The public support issue, ARDC, etc.
Michelle Thompson
mountain.michelle at gmail.com
Mon Nov 21 11:36:53 PST 2022
I'll leave the review of this link and any further contact with you up
to the rest of the board.
Since a large number of us received negative written messages from you
firsthand, and since we all saw what you said online, blaming 'faulty
relays' isn't going to rebuild much of anything. You weren't
misquoted. We heard you loud and clear in your own voice, multiple
times.
Dismissing the real and significant damage done to a successful
non-profit as some sort of unsolvable "personal" issue, that I didn't
not invite, did not accept, and did everything possible to short to
ground and ignore - trivializes and excuses documented unprofessional
behavior. This behavior has no place and we have stopped letting it
harm us.
ORI will never behave this way in reverse. We're not assholes, Bruce.
-Michelle Thompson
On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 11:09 AM Bruce Perens <bruce at perens.com> wrote:
>
> Yes I think there's been a lot of confusion about the public support issue and I think people have relayed my thoughts with less than complete understanding. I wrote an article about it that I don't feel is either defamatory of ORI nor inaccurate. Please review it at https://perens.com/2022/09/03/your-ardc-grant-the-irs-and-the-public-support-test/ and tell me if there is anything you think I should change.
>
> I expect to be in the same spaces as ORI, working on the same issues, and I really will do my very best to be cordial and I think you guys can do that too.
>
> I am not involved in the personal issues and they do seem to be some tremendous morass. I just don't know what to do about them.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bruce
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022, 10:05 Michelle Thompson <mountain.michelle at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The Kraken team contacted us well over a week ago, and we've been
>> helping them. In addition to that, multiple people on social media
>> directed them to us. I am confident everything is going to work out
>> for them, for at least two sets of reasons. We'll see how it goes.
>>
>> The co-owner of Kraken is the lead of one of ORI's sponsored projects,
>> called Skylark.
>>
>> A project, by the way, that ARDC has targeted for exclusion. Syed, a
>> principal at Kraken, was told Skylark simply would not get funding for
>> his satellite project because ORI was the fiscal sponsor. You see,
>> ARDC tells people applying with ORI that they can't use us for either
>> fiscal sponsorship *or as a partner*.
>>
>> As far as we can tell, this is simply out of spite because I wouldn't
>> go along with Phil's proposal to replace his "tired and low energy"
>> wife at a sex party so my "grant could be considered in a better
>> light" at DEFCON in 2019 (reported to their board!), and we then
>> declined to give him a requested quid pro quo at HamCation in 2020
>> (Meeting was recorded! This was reported to their board!). We know
>> that this is the root cause from messages exfiltrated through Bob
>> McGwier.
>>
>> ARDC has lied to multiple other entities that ORI is "in trouble with
>> the IRS". I have heard from multiple people that you have helped
>> spread this damaging rumor. Whether we are a Public Charity or a
>> Private Operating Foundation *does not matter with respect to grants*.
>> We spent a lot of time and money with lawyers and accountants figuring
>> this out and we kept ARDC informed all along the way. In return for
>> being transparent and finding a mutually beneficial solution, we were
>> attacked and lied about.
>>
>> Fuck all of this shit, I am done with this sort of thing, and I'm done
>> with anyone that behaves this way or helps others be abusive. You have
>> made it very clear you prioritize and help ARDC over ORI, and you have
>> defended and excused their bad behavior.
>>
>> I warned you in writing that you were burning down bridges that were
>> worth more than whatever money you thought you could get from ARDC.
>> Your tactic was to publicly dunk on ORI and then block everyone after
>> demanding a board meeting that would target and exclude me as some
>> sort of "problem". This was not received well at all, by anyone.
>>
>> Do not write any of us again unless you have publicly repaired this situation.
>>
>> -Michelle Thompson
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 8:08 AM Bruce Perens <bruce at perens.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Sorry to put this on you, I am in the hospital and just had bypass surgery. Could you please contact the Kraken RF team? They have taken down their open source passive radar code due to itar concerns, and could use a review of our legal experience.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Bruce
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