[Board] The public support issue, ARDC, etc.

[Bruce Perens]

Okay, I understand your feelings.

Thanks

Bruce

On Mon, Nov 21, 2022, 11:37 Michelle Thompson <mountain.michelle at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I'll leave the review of this link and any further contact with you up
> to the rest of the board.
>
> Since a large number of us received negative written messages from you
> firsthand, and since we all saw what you said online, blaming 'faulty
> relays' isn't going to rebuild much of anything. You weren't
> misquoted. We heard you loud and clear in your own voice, multiple
> times.
>
> Dismissing the real and significant damage done to a successful
> non-profit as some sort of unsolvable "personal" issue, that I didn't
> not invite, did not accept, and did everything possible to short to
> ground and ignore - trivializes and excuses documented unprofessional
> behavior. This behavior has no place and we have stopped letting it
> harm us.
>
> ORI will never behave this way in reverse. We're not assholes, Bruce.
>
> -Michelle Thompson
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 11:09 AM Bruce Perens <bruce at perens.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yes I think there's been a lot of confusion about the public support
> issue and I think people have relayed my thoughts with less than complete
> understanding. I wrote an article about it that I don't feel is either
> defamatory of ORI nor inaccurate. Please review it at
> https://perens.com/2022/09/03/your-ardc-grant-the-irs-and-the-public-support-test/
> and tell me if there is anything you  think I should change.
> >
> > I expect to be in the same spaces as ORI, working on the same issues,
> and I really will do my very best to be cordial and I think you guys can do
> that too.
> >
> > I am not involved in the personal issues and they do seem to be some
> tremendous morass. I just don't know what to do about them.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 21, 2022, 10:05 Michelle Thompson <
> mountain.michelle at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> The Kraken team contacted us well over a week ago, and we've been
> >> helping them. In addition to that, multiple people on social media
> >> directed them to us. I am confident everything is going to work out
> >> for them, for at least two sets of reasons. We'll see how it goes.
> >>
> >> The co-owner of Kraken is the lead of one of ORI's sponsored projects,
> >> called Skylark.
> >>
> >> A project, by the way, that ARDC has targeted for exclusion. Syed, a
> >> principal at Kraken, was told Skylark simply would not get funding for
> >> his satellite project because ORI was the fiscal sponsor. You see,
> >> ARDC tells people applying with ORI that they can't use us for either
> >> fiscal sponsorship *or as a partner*.
> >>
> >> As far as we can tell, this is simply out of spite because I wouldn't
> >> go along with Phil's proposal to replace his "tired and low energy"
> >> wife at a sex party so my "grant could be considered in a better
> >> light" at DEFCON in 2019 (reported to their board!), and we then
> >> declined to give him a requested quid pro quo at HamCation in 2020
> >> (Meeting was recorded! This was reported to their board!). We know
> >> that this is the root cause from messages exfiltrated through Bob
> >> McGwier.
> >>
> >> ARDC has lied to multiple other entities that ORI is "in trouble with
> >> the IRS". I have heard from multiple people that you have helped
> >> spread this damaging rumor. Whether we are a Public Charity or a
> >> Private Operating Foundation *does not matter with respect to grants*.
> >> We spent a lot of time and money with lawyers and accountants figuring
> >> this out and we kept ARDC informed all along the way. In return for
> >> being transparent and finding a mutually beneficial solution, we were
> >> attacked and lied about.
> >>
> >> Fuck all of this shit, I am done with this sort of thing, and I'm done
> >> with anyone that behaves this way or helps others be abusive. You have
> >> made it very clear you prioritize and help ARDC over ORI, and you have
> >> defended and excused their bad behavior.
> >>
> >> I warned you in writing that you were burning down bridges that were
> >> worth more than whatever money you thought you could get from ARDC.
> >> Your tactic was to publicly dunk on ORI and then block everyone after
> >> demanding a board meeting that would target and exclude me as some
> >> sort of "problem". This was not received well at all, by anyone.
> >>
> >> Do not write any of us again unless you have publicly repaired this
> situation.
> >>
> >> -Michelle Thompson
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 8:08 AM Bruce Perens <bruce at perens.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > Sorry to put this on you, I am in the hospital and just had bypass
> surgery. Could you please contact the Kraken RF team? They have taken down
> their open source passive radar code due to itar concerns, and could use a
> review of our legal experience.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > Bruce
>
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