[Board] The public support issue, ARDC, etc.

Bruce Perens bruce at perens.com
Mon Nov 21 11:09:17 PST 2022


Yes I think there's been a lot of confusion about the public support issue
and I think people have relayed my thoughts with less than complete
understanding. I wrote an article about it that I don't feel is either
defamatory of ORI nor inaccurate. Please review it at
https://perens.com/2022/09/03/your-ardc-grant-the-irs-and-the-public-support-test/
and tell me if there is anything you  think I should change.

I expect to be in the same spaces as ORI, working on the same issues, and I
really will do my very best to be cordial and I think you guys can do that
too.

I am not involved in the personal issues and they do seem to be some
tremendous morass. I just don't know what to do about them.

Thanks

Bruce

On Mon, Nov 21, 2022, 10:05 Michelle Thompson <mountain.michelle at gmail.com>
wrote:

> The Kraken team contacted us well over a week ago, and we've been
> helping them. In addition to that, multiple people on social media
> directed them to us. I am confident everything is going to work out
> for them, for at least two sets of reasons. We'll see how it goes.
>
> The co-owner of Kraken is the lead of one of ORI's sponsored projects,
> called Skylark.
>
> A project, by the way, that ARDC has targeted for exclusion. Syed, a
> principal at Kraken, was told Skylark simply would not get funding for
> his satellite project because ORI was the fiscal sponsor. You see,
> ARDC tells people applying with ORI that they can't use us for either
> fiscal sponsorship *or as a partner*.
>
> As far as we can tell, this is simply out of spite because I wouldn't
> go along with Phil's proposal to replace his "tired and low energy"
> wife at a sex party so my "grant could be considered in a better
> light" at DEFCON in 2019 (reported to their board!), and we then
> declined to give him a requested quid pro quo at HamCation in 2020
> (Meeting was recorded! This was reported to their board!). We know
> that this is the root cause from messages exfiltrated through Bob
> McGwier.
>
> ARDC has lied to multiple other entities that ORI is "in trouble with
> the IRS". I have heard from multiple people that you have helped
> spread this damaging rumor. Whether we are a Public Charity or a
> Private Operating Foundation *does not matter with respect to grants*.
> We spent a lot of time and money with lawyers and accountants figuring
> this out and we kept ARDC informed all along the way. In return for
> being transparent and finding a mutually beneficial solution, we were
> attacked and lied about.
>
> Fuck all of this shit, I am done with this sort of thing, and I'm done
> with anyone that behaves this way or helps others be abusive. You have
> made it very clear you prioritize and help ARDC over ORI, and you have
> defended and excused their bad behavior.
>
> I warned you in writing that you were burning down bridges that were
> worth more than whatever money you thought you could get from ARDC.
> Your tactic was to publicly dunk on ORI and then block everyone after
> demanding a board meeting that would target and exclude me as some
> sort of "problem". This was not received well at all, by anyone.
>
> Do not write any of us again unless you have publicly repaired this
> situation.
>
> -Michelle Thompson
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 8:08 AM Bruce Perens <bruce at perens.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Sorry to put this on you, I am in the hospital and just had bypass
> surgery. Could you please contact the Kraken RF team? They have taken down
> their open source passive radar code due to itar concerns, and could use a
> review of our legal experience.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Bruce
>
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