[Board] ARDC conference?

Michelle Thompson mountain.michelle at gmail.com
Wed May 12 10:17:57 PDT 2021


Can do, looking forward.

-Michelle W5NYV




On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 10:14 AM Rosy Wolfe <rosy at ampr.org> wrote:

> Would you be up for 30 mins at 2pm PT?
>
> Rosy Wolfe - KJ7RYV
> Executive Director
> Amateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC)
> ampr.org
>
> On 5/12/21 10:12 AM, Michelle Thompson wrote:
> > How about today?
> >
> > I have noon Pacific to 4:30pm.
> >
> > -Michelle W5NYV
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 12:50 PM Rosy Wolfe <rosy at ampr.org
> > <mailto:rosy at ampr.org>> wrote:
> >
> >     Cool! Let's talk sometime soon. Please let me know when you have
> >     availability.
> >
> >     On my end, today is a bit nutty, I have availability, though,
> >     Tues-Thurs
> >     this week.
> >
> >     Looking forward,
> >     Rosy
> >
> >     Rosy Wolfe - KJ7RYV
> >     Executive Director
> >     Amateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC)
> >     ampr.org <http://ampr.org>
> >
> >     On 5/3/21 8:56 AM, Michelle Thompson wrote:
> >      > There's a lot going on with what you're asking for here.
> >      >
> >      > "I would love to have a more guided discussion with people in
> >      > our community about the future of amateur radio and digital
> >      > communications, so that ARDC can best strategize around meeting
> goals
> >      > that meet a more collective vision. We've done some of that with
> our
> >      > survey, but this would be a more selected group of major players
> >     in the
> >      > space.
> >      >
> >      > I would love it if you and/or others at ORI would be interested in
> >      > participating in such a visioning session, and curious whether
> >     you would
> >      > be open to doing it online vs. in-person. (Consider it may be a
> >     5-hour
> >      > event, or a couple 2-3 hour events.)"
> >      >
> >      > This needs a phone call to talk about.
> >      >
> >      > -Michelle W5NYV
> >      >
> >      >
> >      >
> >      >
> >      > On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 6:29 PM Rosy Wolfe <rosy at ampr.org
> >     <mailto:rosy at ampr.org>
> >      > <mailto:rosy at ampr.org <mailto:rosy at ampr.org>>> wrote:
> >      >
> >      >     Hi all,
> >      >
> >      >     Michelle, thanks for including me on this mail. I agree with
> >     many of
> >      >     the
> >      >     ideas that you've put forth - particularly that it's a TON of
> >     work to
> >      >     put on a conference (much less one that happens multiple
> >     times a year),
> >      >     that it would be helpful to gauge the interest of our
> >     grantees before
> >      >     inviting them to such a thing, and that there could be a power
> >      >     differential at play for the grantees. Additionally, I think
> >     we can
> >      >     consider using Zulip (an open source version of Slack) for
> >      >     communications with the community. There is already
> discussion of
> >      >     setting one up.
> >      >
> >      >     re: Phil's email, ARDC is in the *really* early stages of
> >     thinking
> >      >     about
> >      >     gatherings of any sort, given that we have a ways to go
> >     before we are
> >      >     truly out of Pandemic Land (TM). One thing is we definitely
> >     need to do
> >      >     an internal offsite. Additionally, and perhaps in conjunction
> >     with the
> >      >     offsite, I would love to have a more guided discussion with
> >     people in
> >      >     our community about the future of amateur radio and digital
> >      >     communications, so that ARDC can best strategize around
> >     meeting goals
> >      >     that meet a more collective vision. We've done some of that
> >     with our
> >      >     survey, but this would be a more selected group of major
> >     players in the
> >      >     space.
> >      >
> >      >     I would love it if you and/or others at ORI would be
> >     interested in
> >      >     participating in such a visioning session, and curious
> >     whether you
> >      >     would
> >      >     be open to doing it online vs. in-person. (Consider it may be
> >     a 5-hour
> >      >     event, or a couple 2-3 hour events.)
> >      >
> >      >     In terms of a networking event like the one Phil is
> >     describing, I could
> >      >     see doing something like that in conjunction with an existing
> >      >     conference, such as TAPR DCC or similar. I've organized
> >     similar events
> >      >     when I was in the open source mapping world, holding Maptime
> >     gatherings
> >      >     and karaoke along with State of the Map, for example. PS -
> >     one of my
> >      >     favorite things is to get a bunch of nerds together for
> >     karaoke. You've
> >      >     all been warned! And for when it happens - you're welcome ;)
> >      >
> >      >     In any case, as this mail indicates, we have some thinking
> (and
> >      >     hiring!)
> >      >     to do before putting together any events. In the meantime,
> >     please do
> >      >     let
> >      >     me know if you'd have interest in participating in a
> >     visioning session,
> >      >     online or IRL. Your insight there would be, as always, greatly
> >      >     appreciated.
> >      >
> >      >     All the best and 73,
> >      >     Rosy
> >      >
> >      >     Rosy Wolfe - KJ7RYV
> >      >     Executive Director
> >      >     Amateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC)
> >      > ampr.org <http://ampr.org> <http://ampr.org <http://ampr.org>>
> >      >
> >      >     On 4/26/21 1:51 PM, Michelle Thompson wrote:
> >      >      > Phil,
> >      >      >
> >      >      > I agree that putting grantees in contact with each other
> >     is a great
> >      >      > idea, but I think that there are ways to do this which are
> >     much more
> >      >      > frictionless than a conference.
> >      >      >
> >      >      > Conferences are generally organized around a shared topic,
> and
> >      >      > networking is a secondary effect. It sounds like you want
> >      >     networking to
> >      >      > be the primary reason that people attend, and this leaves
> me
> >      >     wondering
> >      >      > what the common interest is in presentations. What is the
> >      >      > motivation/reward for people putting work into
> presentations?
> >      >     What is
> >      >      > the likely outcome?
> >      >      >
> >      >      > There's a similar ecosystem we can look to for guidance
> >     here on
> >      >      > networking, and that's the venture capital (VC) community.
> VCs
> >      >     like Y
> >      >      > Combinator (and others) have set up mailing lists and
> >     forums (using
> >      >      > discord, slack, and other tools) to allow free networking
> >     between
> >      >     their
> >      >      > 'alumni'. This is a much lower barrier for participation,
> >     and allows
> >      >      > information exchange outside of a formal process
> (conferences)
> >      >     that not
> >      >      > everyone will have the time or inclination to participate
> in.
> >      >      >
> >      >      > Putting on a conference is a lot of work, as is answering
> the
> >      >     questions
> >      >      > in your email. I don't have time to address those for
> >     ARDC. You
> >      >     should
> >      >      > look to your own board members, who collectively have much
> >     more
> >      >      > experience than I do.
> >      >      >
> >      >      > I'd suggest gauging interest among your grantees before
> >     planning any
> >      >      > conferences. It's their interest that will make a
> successful
> >      >      > conference. Since the power differential between ARDC and
> >     grant
> >      >      > recipients is so large, any request from ARDC will
> probably be
> >      >      > interpreted as a requirement, and that will complicate the
> >      >     answers. That
> >      >      > is one reason why VC firms do the things they do, in terms
> >     of alumni
> >      >      > support.
> >      >      >
> >      >      > -Michelle W5NYV
> >      >      >
> >      >      >
> >      >      >
> >      >      >
> >      >      > On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 1:18 AM Phil Karn <karn at ka9q.net
> >     <mailto:karn at ka9q.net>
> >      >     <mailto:karn at ka9q.net <mailto:karn at ka9q.net>>
> >      >      > <mailto:karn at ka9q.net <mailto:karn at ka9q.net>
> >     <mailto:karn at ka9q.net <mailto:karn at ka9q.net>>>> wrote:
> >      >      >
> >      >      >     Hi Michelle, we haven't chatted in quite some time.
> >     How are you?
> >      >      >
> >      >      >     At recent ARDC board meetings I've been talking up the
> >     idea of a
> >      >      >     periodic conference to which all our grantees would be
> >      >     invited. This
> >      >      >     would not only help bring the ARDC Board and Grant
> >     Advisory
> >      >     Committees
> >      >      >     up to speed on what they've been doing, but let ARDC
> >     grantees
> >      >     meet each
> >      >      >     other. I personally think this is very important given
> our
> >      >     focus on a
> >      >      >     diverse set of projects and groups.
> >      >      >
> >      >      >     I will strongly insist on not overloading the schedule
> >     with
> >      >     too much
> >      >      >     formal time. I have always thought that ad-hoc dinners
> and
> >      >     late nights
> >      >      >     in hotel bars are often the most productive parts of
> any
> >      >     technical
> >      >      >     conference. You can always watch a video of a talk or
> >     read a
> >      >     formal
> >      >      >     paper at home whenever you want, and ask questions by
> >     email.
> >      >     I want
> >      >      >     people to come to do the things that are best done in
> >     person.
> >      >     After a
> >      >      >     whole year on Zoom I think we now have a better idea
> >     of what
> >      >     those
> >      >      >     things are.
> >      >      >
> >      >      >     There's solid support on the Board for this idea, but
> it's
> >      >     still at a
> >      >      >     VERY early stage of discussion. We have no idea where
> >     or even
> >      >     when we
> >      >      >     could hold such an event given Covid. (The first would
> >      >     probably be in
> >      >      >     the US but we'd definitely want to hold some
> >     elsewhere, probably
> >      >      >     starting in Europe.) But since ORI is one of ARDC's
> >     biggest
> >      >     grantees
> >      >      >     (and you have a lot of personal experience in
> organizing
> >      >     conferences)
> >      >      >     I'd like your opinions.
> >      >      >
> >      >      >     How how big a block of time would ORI need to give
> >     *capsule*
> >      >     overviews
> >      >      >     of all its various projects? Note the emphasis on
> >     "capsule".
> >      >     My thinking
> >      >      >     here is to present in the general style of an article
> >     for QST,
> >      >      >     Communications of the ACM or IEEE Spectrum, i.e.,
> assume a
> >      >     general
> >      >      >     technical background in computers, space, electrical
> >      >     engineering and/or
> >      >      >     radio communications but NOT specialist knowledge in a
> >     particular
> >      >      >     subfield, e.g., speech compression or digital satellite
> >      >     communications.
> >      >      >
> >      >      >     I also don't think we'd have time for detailed formal
> >      >     tutorials. The
> >      >      >     talks should focus on YOUR work -- the specific problem
> >      >     you're trying to
> >      >      >     solve, what approaches you took, what you've done so
> far,
> >      >     work yet to be
> >      >      >     done, etc. What worked? More importantly, what did NOT
> >     work,
> >      >     technically
> >      >      >     or organizationally? Again, focus on what YOU have
> done or
> >      >     plan to do,
> >      >      >     as opposed to general overviews of a field. (Do
> >     provide links to
> >      >      >     overviews, tutorials, deep technical details, etc, for
> >     those
> >      >      >     interested.)
> >      >      >
> >      >      >     How many speakers from ORI would be involved? How many
> >     more
> >      >     would come
> >      >      >     who wouldn't give formal presentations but could
> >     benefit from
> >      >     attending?
> >      >      >     I'm thinking mainly of younger volunteers (especially
> >      >     students) without
> >      >      >     a lot of experience who could be motivated by an
> in-person
> >      >     event like
> >      >      >     this. ARDC could probably be persuaded to provide
> >     financial
> >      >     assistance
> >      >      >     for travel as needed. As you know, ARDC's very first
> grant
> >      >     was for
> >      >      >     travel scholarships to the 2019 ARRL/TAPR DCC in
> >     Detroit that
> >      >     brought
> >      >      >     some students with the HamSci project from Case
> Western.
> >      >     Having talked
> >      >      >     with many of them, I think it was money very well
> >     spent. (I'd
> >      >     forgotten
> >      >      >     how much energy I had at that age.)
> >      >      >
> >      >      >     Please forward this to anybody you know who could also
> >      >     provide some
> >      >      >     advice here.
> >      >      >
> >      >      >
> >      >      >     --Phil
> >      >      >
> >      >      >
> >      >      >
> >      >
> >
>
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