[Board] ARDC conference?
Rosy Wolfe
rosy at ampr.org
Wed May 12 10:19:00 PDT 2021
Right on! I'll send you an invite :)
Rosy Wolfe - KJ7RYV
Executive Director
Amateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC)
ampr.org
On 5/12/21 10:17 AM, Michelle Thompson wrote:
> Can do, looking forward.
>
> -Michelle W5NYV
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 10:14 AM Rosy Wolfe <rosy at ampr.org
> <mailto:rosy at ampr.org>> wrote:
>
> Would you be up for 30 mins at 2pm PT?
>
> Rosy Wolfe - KJ7RYV
> Executive Director
> Amateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC)
> ampr.org <http://ampr.org>
>
> On 5/12/21 10:12 AM, Michelle Thompson wrote:
> > How about today?
> >
> > I have noon Pacific to 4:30pm.
> >
> > -Michelle W5NYV
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 12:50 PM Rosy Wolfe <rosy at ampr.org
> <mailto:rosy at ampr.org>
> > <mailto:rosy at ampr.org <mailto:rosy at ampr.org>>> wrote:
> >
> > Cool! Let's talk sometime soon. Please let me know when you have
> > availability.
> >
> > On my end, today is a bit nutty, I have availability, though,
> > Tues-Thurs
> > this week.
> >
> > Looking forward,
> > Rosy
> >
> > Rosy Wolfe - KJ7RYV
> > Executive Director
> > Amateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC)
> > ampr.org <http://ampr.org> <http://ampr.org <http://ampr.org>>
> >
> > On 5/3/21 8:56 AM, Michelle Thompson wrote:
> > > There's a lot going on with what you're asking for here.
> > >
> > > "I would love to have a more guided discussion with people in
> > > our community about the future of amateur radio and digital
> > > communications, so that ARDC can best strategize around
> meeting goals
> > > that meet a more collective vision. We've done some of
> that with our
> > > survey, but this would be a more selected group of major
> players
> > in the
> > > space.
> > >
> > > I would love it if you and/or others at ORI would be
> interested in
> > > participating in such a visioning session, and curious whether
> > you would
> > > be open to doing it online vs. in-person. (Consider it may
> be a
> > 5-hour
> > > event, or a couple 2-3 hour events.)"
> > >
> > > This needs a phone call to talk about.
> > >
> > > -Michelle W5NYV
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 6:29 PM Rosy Wolfe <rosy at ampr.org
> <mailto:rosy at ampr.org>
> > <mailto:rosy at ampr.org <mailto:rosy at ampr.org>>
> > > <mailto:rosy at ampr.org <mailto:rosy at ampr.org>
> <mailto:rosy at ampr.org <mailto:rosy at ampr.org>>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Michelle, thanks for including me on this mail. I
> agree with
> > many of
> > > the
> > > ideas that you've put forth - particularly that it's a
> TON of
> > work to
> > > put on a conference (much less one that happens multiple
> > times a year),
> > > that it would be helpful to gauge the interest of our
> > grantees before
> > > inviting them to such a thing, and that there could be
> a power
> > > differential at play for the grantees. Additionally, I
> think
> > we can
> > > consider using Zulip (an open source version of Slack) for
> > > communications with the community. There is already
> discussion of
> > > setting one up.
> > >
> > > re: Phil's email, ARDC is in the *really* early stages of
> > thinking
> > > about
> > > gatherings of any sort, given that we have a ways to go
> > before we are
> > > truly out of Pandemic Land (TM). One thing is we
> definitely
> > need to do
> > > an internal offsite. Additionally, and perhaps in
> conjunction
> > with the
> > > offsite, I would love to have a more guided discussion
> with
> > people in
> > > our community about the future of amateur radio and
> digital
> > > communications, so that ARDC can best strategize around
> > meeting goals
> > > that meet a more collective vision. We've done some of
> that
> > with our
> > > survey, but this would be a more selected group of major
> > players in the
> > > space.
> > >
> > > I would love it if you and/or others at ORI would be
> > interested in
> > > participating in such a visioning session, and curious
> > whether you
> > > would
> > > be open to doing it online vs. in-person. (Consider it
> may be
> > a 5-hour
> > > event, or a couple 2-3 hour events.)
> > >
> > > In terms of a networking event like the one Phil is
> > describing, I could
> > > see doing something like that in conjunction with an
> existing
> > > conference, such as TAPR DCC or similar. I've organized
> > similar events
> > > when I was in the open source mapping world, holding
> Maptime
> > gatherings
> > > and karaoke along with State of the Map, for example. PS -
> > one of my
> > > favorite things is to get a bunch of nerds together for
> > karaoke. You've
> > > all been warned! And for when it happens - you're
> welcome ;)
> > >
> > > In any case, as this mail indicates, we have some
> thinking (and
> > > hiring!)
> > > to do before putting together any events. In the meantime,
> > please do
> > > let
> > > me know if you'd have interest in participating in a
> > visioning session,
> > > online or IRL. Your insight there would be, as always,
> greatly
> > > appreciated.
> > >
> > > All the best and 73,
> > > Rosy
> > >
> > > Rosy Wolfe - KJ7RYV
> > > Executive Director
> > > Amateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC)
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> > >
> > > On 4/26/21 1:51 PM, Michelle Thompson wrote:
> > > > Phil,
> > > >
> > > > I agree that putting grantees in contact with each
> other
> > is a great
> > > > idea, but I think that there are ways to do this
> which are
> > much more
> > > > frictionless than a conference.
> > > >
> > > > Conferences are generally organized around a shared
> topic, and
> > > > networking is a secondary effect. It sounds like
> you want
> > > networking to
> > > > be the primary reason that people attend, and this
> leaves me
> > > wondering
> > > > what the common interest is in presentations. What
> is the
> > > > motivation/reward for people putting work into
> presentations?
> > > What is
> > > > the likely outcome?
> > > >
> > > > There's a similar ecosystem we can look to for guidance
> > here on
> > > > networking, and that's the venture capital (VC)
> community. VCs
> > > like Y
> > > > Combinator (and others) have set up mailing lists and
> > forums (using
> > > > discord, slack, and other tools) to allow free
> networking
> > between
> > > their
> > > > 'alumni'. This is a much lower barrier for
> participation,
> > and allows
> > > > information exchange outside of a formal process
> (conferences)
> > > that not
> > > > everyone will have the time or inclination to
> participate in.
> > > >
> > > > Putting on a conference is a lot of work, as is
> answering the
> > > questions
> > > > in your email. I don't have time to address those for
> > ARDC. You
> > > should
> > > > look to your own board members, who collectively
> have much
> > more
> > > > experience than I do.
> > > >
> > > > I'd suggest gauging interest among your grantees before
> > planning any
> > > > conferences. It's their interest that will make a
> successful
> > > > conference. Since the power differential between
> ARDC and
> > grant
> > > > recipients is so large, any request from ARDC will
> probably be
> > > > interpreted as a requirement, and that will
> complicate the
> > > answers. That
> > > > is one reason why VC firms do the things they do,
> in terms
> > of alumni
> > > > support.
> > > >
> > > > -Michelle W5NYV
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 1:18 AM Phil Karn
> <karn at ka9q.net <mailto:karn at ka9q.net>
> > <mailto:karn at ka9q.net <mailto:karn at ka9q.net>>
> > > <mailto:karn at ka9q.net <mailto:karn at ka9q.net>
> <mailto:karn at ka9q.net <mailto:karn at ka9q.net>>>
> > > > <mailto:karn at ka9q.net <mailto:karn at ka9q.net>
> <mailto:karn at ka9q.net <mailto:karn at ka9q.net>>
> > <mailto:karn at ka9q.net <mailto:karn at ka9q.net>
> <mailto:karn at ka9q.net <mailto:karn at ka9q.net>>>>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Michelle, we haven't chatted in quite some time.
> > How are you?
> > > >
> > > > At recent ARDC board meetings I've been talking
> up the
> > idea of a
> > > > periodic conference to which all our grantees
> would be
> > > invited. This
> > > > would not only help bring the ARDC Board and Grant
> > Advisory
> > > Committees
> > > > up to speed on what they've been doing, but let
> ARDC
> > grantees
> > > meet each
> > > > other. I personally think this is very
> important given our
> > > focus on a
> > > > diverse set of projects and groups.
> > > >
> > > > I will strongly insist on not overloading the
> schedule
> > with
> > > too much
> > > > formal time. I have always thought that ad-hoc
> dinners and
> > > late nights
> > > > in hotel bars are often the most productive
> parts of any
> > > technical
> > > > conference. You can always watch a video of a
> talk or
> > read a
> > > formal
> > > > paper at home whenever you want, and ask
> questions by
> > email.
> > > I want
> > > > people to come to do the things that are best
> done in
> > person.
> > > After a
> > > > whole year on Zoom I think we now have a better
> idea
> > of what
> > > those
> > > > things are.
> > > >
> > > > There's solid support on the Board for this
> idea, but it's
> > > still at a
> > > > VERY early stage of discussion. We have no idea
> where
> > or even
> > > when we
> > > > could hold such an event given Covid. (The
> first would
> > > probably be in
> > > > the US but we'd definitely want to hold some
> > elsewhere, probably
> > > > starting in Europe.) But since ORI is one of ARDC's
> > biggest
> > > grantees
> > > > (and you have a lot of personal experience in
> organizing
> > > conferences)
> > > > I'd like your opinions.
> > > >
> > > > How how big a block of time would ORI need to give
> > *capsule*
> > > overviews
> > > > of all its various projects? Note the emphasis on
> > "capsule".
> > > My thinking
> > > > here is to present in the general style of an
> article
> > for QST,
> > > > Communications of the ACM or IEEE Spectrum,
> i.e., assume a
> > > general
> > > > technical background in computers, space,
> electrical
> > > engineering and/or
> > > > radio communications but NOT specialist
> knowledge in a
> > particular
> > > > subfield, e.g., speech compression or digital
> satellite
> > > communications.
> > > >
> > > > I also don't think we'd have time for detailed
> formal
> > > tutorials. The
> > > > talks should focus on YOUR work -- the specific
> problem
> > > you're trying to
> > > > solve, what approaches you took, what you've
> done so far,
> > > work yet to be
> > > > done, etc. What worked? More importantly, what
> did NOT
> > work,
> > > technically
> > > > or organizationally? Again, focus on what YOU
> have done or
> > > plan to do,
> > > > as opposed to general overviews of a field. (Do
> > provide links to
> > > > overviews, tutorials, deep technical details,
> etc, for
> > those
> > > > interested.)
> > > >
> > > > How many speakers from ORI would be involved?
> How many
> > more
> > > would come
> > > > who wouldn't give formal presentations but could
> > benefit from
> > > attending?
> > > > I'm thinking mainly of younger volunteers
> (especially
> > > students) without
> > > > a lot of experience who could be motivated by
> an in-person
> > > event like
> > > > this. ARDC could probably be persuaded to provide
> > financial
> > > assistance
> > > > for travel as needed. As you know, ARDC's very
> first grant
> > > was for
> > > > travel scholarships to the 2019 ARRL/TAPR DCC in
> > Detroit that
> > > brought
> > > > some students with the HamSci project from Case
> Western.
> > > Having talked
> > > > with many of them, I think it was money very well
> > spent. (I'd
> > > forgotten
> > > > how much energy I had at that age.)
> > > >
> > > > Please forward this to anybody you know who
> could also
> > > provide some
> > > > advice here.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --Phil
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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