[Ground-station] Presentation of Material to ESA

Michelle Thompson mountain.michelle at gmail.com
Tue Nov 21 17:58:25 PST 2023


Greetings all,

Hat tip to Kent Britain for the following, which was in a recent issue of
Scatterpoint, the UK Microwave journal.

I'll forward everything relevant that we have been working on. It's quite a
lot and should be helpful. Anyone that wants to help with this proposal and
communication effort is of course welcome.

Please read the announcement below and share your thoughts.

"Satellite Proposal for discussion

At the recent RSGB Convention / AMSAT-UK Colloquium at Milton Keynes, Frank
Zeppenfeldt, PD0AP, from the European Space Agency Satellite Communications
Group, made a presentation on the subject of a future ESA backed amateur
satellite mission to GEO. Frank has obtained funding of 250,000 Euro to
investigate the possibility of an Amateur satellite or payload to be placed
in GEO orbit. The presentation emphasises innovation and microwave
communications.

Frank's full presentation is available on YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FTvlEyDa1Y&t=37s&pp=ygUYYW1zYXQgVUsgY29sbG9xdWl1bSAyMDIz

As a member of the UK microwave / Satellite community, we would like to
invite you to contribute to the design concept of this mission.
We would welcome any thoughts you may have via e-mail etc. and we will add
those to the overall discussion.

In a follow up Teams meeting on Wed 1st Nov between Frank and AMSAT-UK, it
became clear that an ideal solution from an ESA perspective should provide
a service to amateurs in Canada as well as Europe. - Canada is an ESA
cooperating state. Note that any GEO covering part or all of Canada will
also cover a significant proportion of The USA.

AMSAT-UK is working to identify a suitable range of GEO slots which meet
this requirement.

What is needed, is a proposal for 2 or 3 ideas for what this GEO mission
(most likely a hosted payload) should include.

See notes / Franks presentation.

AMSAT-UK aims to respond with some proposals by Dec 4th. These do not need
great detail, but should justify bands used and other ideas.

For Example.

What bands should be included. - This project is not aimed as a QO-100
replacement.

Is 24G and up practical? Can a ground station generate enough power
economically with today’s available technology
for an uplink on 24/47/76G

Given a resource in space, is there an 'easy' entry level on say 24G - RX
or TX so we can attract new microwave operators.

Should the transponder/s be old style bent pipe configurations or contain
on board processing to decode RX signals then encode the downlink?

What digital protocols are appropriate for the above?

Is 5.6G viable as an uplink given the WiFi presence?

Any observations on 6cm interference would be valuable.

Note: The antennas on the satellite will likely have a min gain of 20dB as
this covers the visible portion of the Earth from geostationary orbit.

In recent discussions with BATC etc we have concluded that a 10G downlink
should be the baseline to take advantage of the large existing userbase and
that a minimum power output onboard needs to be 10W into a 20dB antenna.

If the proposals are considered substantial enough for further discussion,
we have suggested a meeting at the ESA technical centre in The Netherlands
around end Feb / March next year. This 2 day (?) event would be funded by
ESA probably via A-UK. If this meeting happens, then representatives from
A-UK BATC and UK microwave group could attend along with other groups from
The EU and USA so we can take the project forward.

Frank anticipates doing some initial prototyping and then present the
findings to a meeting of GEO platform operators next year. Hopefully this
will find a commercial partner with a platform going to an appropriate GEO
slot.

If any of this is of interest, please let us know your thoughts.

This is a rare opportunity. I hope you can give it your support.

David G0MRF / Noel G8GTZ"

-Michelle Thompson

"Potestatem obscuri lateris nescis."
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