[Ground-station] Link budget

[Bruce Perens]

While you are looking at advanced languages, here is a piece I wrote on
Crystal a while back. It's the logical successor to Ruby, which IMO was
advanced beyond Python. But there is a cost to being on the bleeding edge.

https://perens.com/2020/06/28/building-a-startup-with-crystal-and-lucky/

On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 12:39 PM Thomas Savarino via Ground-Station
<ground-station at lists.openresearch.institute> wrote:

> I’d like to hear more about your Golang work and why you use that.
> S
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 20, 2021, at 12:32 PM, Robert McGwier via Ground-Station
> <ground-station at lists.openresearch.institute> wrote:
>
> 
> I want to strongly support python for the work. I do simulations in Matlab
> and some architecture design work and then I use python and I'm moving into
> Golang for compiled code.
>
> Bob
>
>
> Dr. Robert W McGwier, Ph.D.
> Adjunct Faculty, Virginia Tech
> ARDC Member of Board
> ARS: N4HY
> ARRL, AMSAT, AAVSO, TAPR, SkyHub
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021, 4:07 PM Michelle Thompson via Ground-Station
> <ground-station at lists.openresearch.institute> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Thomas and Alan for the valuable input.
>>
>> I have a soft spot in my heart for Octave and MATLAB, and am used to
>> having them be a significant part of technical work like this. If Python
>> can do the job, and it's the preferred expression for the work, then by all
>> means let's proceed.
>>
>> -Michelle W5NYV
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 2:03 PM Alan Rich <arich127 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All ,
>>> My apologies for being really late / absent to respond to lots of the
>>> emails on this subject.
>>>
>>> I think I was the one that unfortunately dragged Octave into the
>>> discussion. The main reason was that I am not an experienced python person
>>> (yet) but I have contributed in the past  to some Matlab utilities for RF
>>> work that were converted to executables in the end. Matlab isn't open
>>> source, but Octave is, and it was one of the original open engineering
>>> tools. It's been around for 20 plus years and has good community support. I
>>> was thinking that a link budget and propagation "Toolbox" for Octave might
>>> be a nice thing to have for the community.
>>>
>>> Given that python, numpy, scipy.. have really become the open source
>>> baseline, I'm sure that this is absolutely the right way to go for a
>>> mission application/planning tool.  I apologize for the distraction.
>>> I'll experiment  a bit over in Matlab/Octave in the background to see if
>>> a set of .m files or functions can be built up to support future work.
>>>
>>> Link budgets , Bus power budgets (and antenna pointing requirements)
>>> are so important. Everything else ( throughput and BER/SER/PER) falls out
>>> of them.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Alan
>>>
>>>
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>>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2021 at 3:56 PM Thomas Savarino <thomas.savarino at mac.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I understand that you don’t want any help with this, but I can’t resist
>>>> mentioning that you’d probably be better off doing everything in python and
>>>> avoiding the dependence on Octave, so you should really consider what you
>>>> need by way of calculation. Numpy probably has most if not all of the
>>>> functions you’ll need.
>>>> Best of luck
>>>> S
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 19, 2021, at 11:13 AM, Michelle Thompson via Ground-Station
>>>> <ground-station at lists.openresearch.institute> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you very much Salvatore,
>>>>
>>>> There is no Octave code base that I know of, but this is a very good
>>>> direction.
>>>>
>>>> -Michelle W5NYV
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 8:31 AM Salvatore Lionetti via Ground-Station
>>>> <ground-station at lists.openresearch.institute> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sorry but I've started yesterday to work on this topic.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've made the spreadsheet available on my personal Nextcloud web
>>>>> instance:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://cumlaborare.strangled.net/s/Ng5H3RmmZP8HzNE
>>>>>
>>>>> By this way:
>>>>> * multiple people can collaborate on the same document, at the same
>>>>> moment.
>>>>> * comments are allowed,
>>>>> * versioning is in force.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've setup no password for now, but content can be recovered from a
>>>>> previous version very easily. (similar to Wikipedia)
>>>>>
>>>>> In the meanwhile I've verified that Jupyter can also use Octave
>>>>> interpreter, giving us the possibility to have a single code base.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a (also partial) Octave code base to reuse?
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a good day
>>>>>
>>>>
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