[Ribbit-Developers] Rattlegram Test PWA

[W4CKX]

Hello Rich!!

Welcome to the Ribbit developers mailing list.
What a nice surprise!

Thank you for starting a PWA application demo.
It's definitely a direction that we want to explore to see if it would be a
good fit for the project.

I am starting to believe that conventional mobile app development is
expensive and maintaining a codebase across platforms is resource intensive.

My hope is that relying on web standards will allow for a
lighter/lightweight approach more in line with the resources that we have
as an open source project.
I also hope that by relying on web standards, we will have a stability and
not require the constant code updates needed in conventional app
development to keep up with operating systems version upgrades over time.

Welcome to the team.

Would you be available for a call to talk, get to know you and exchange
about the future of Ribbit.

Pierre W4CKX


On Thu, Aug 17, 2023, 4:22 PM Rich Clingman via Ribbit-Developers
<ribbit-developers at lists.openresearch.institute> wrote:

> About This Rattlegram Test PWA
>
> Thursday, August 17, 2023
> Install the Web App
> <https://rattlegram.k0ozk.com/blog/about#install-the-web-app>
>
> This test Rattlegram Web App is available at Rattlegram.K0OZK.com
> <https://rattlegram.k0ozk.com/>.
>
> If you're using a compatible browser, you should see an install icon in
> the browser address bar or a prompt at the bottom of your mobile screen.
> It's very likely we'll find problems with this test PWA. I did only minimal
> wrapping of Ahmet Inan's Example 3 JS code. (I just noticed that in
> Airplane Mode, hitting Refresh will break the installed app. I'm sure that
> I just need to configure the Service Worker correctly.)
> DSP, WASM, PWA <https://rattlegram.k0ozk.com/blog/about#dsp-wasm-pwa>
>
> I've published this basic Progressive Web Application using Example 3
> from Ahmet Inan's 2019 Digital Signal Processing Library/Web Assembly work
> <https://www.aicodix.de/example3/>.
>
> This basic app will allow us to test the PWA, DSP, WASM, and access to
> audio and GPS on various devices to see if pursuing a
> device-agnostic/single codebase PWA could be beneficial. I've tested the
> PWA on Windows and Android 11. It should work on all PWA and Web
> Assembly-compliant browsers. It should be "installable" on those devices as
> well.
> Why PWA? <https://rattlegram.k0ozk.com/blog/about#why-pwa>
>
> In addition to watching all available presentations on Ribbit, I read the
> emails archived in the ORI mailing lists. Josh Datko raised the issue of a
> PWA in the July discussion. I think a PWA will speed up development and
> adoption. It'll also allow us to deploy Windows/Mac/Linux support at the
> same time as mobile. There'd be no need for device-specific apps. No app
> store. The PWA should run–and be installable–on IOS, Android, Windows, Mac,
> Chrome, Linux, Arduino?—virtually anything with a browser that supports the
> necessary features.
> In an Emergency Situation
> <https://rattlegram.k0ozk.com/blog/about#in-an-emergency-situation>
>
> No Internet. The App Store and Play Store are inaccessible. No one can use
> Ribbit if they've not already installed it.
>
> *But a PWA could be distributed via an ad-hoc web server at the EOC or
> even one running on your smartphone.*
> Imagine... <https://rattlegram.k0ozk.com/blog/about#imagine>
>
> No internet. I join your phone's hotspot. I scan the QR code on your
> phone. My browser loads the Ribbit PWA and asks if I want to install it. Of
> course! Then I turn on my hotspot and offer the PWA to the next ham. I
> think this could be done.
> Development and Deployment
> <https://rattlegram.k0ozk.com/blog/about#development-and-deployment>
>
> This test PWA is set up with CI/CD. The latest release is built and
> deployed to the production site within a couple minutes of code being
> pushed to the repository. By using Pull Requests, a preview website is
> automatically created. We can use the preview to test and approve the
> latest release. Then, with one click, we release the latest awesomeness.
> Update the App on All Your Devices
> <https://rattlegram.k0ozk.com/blog/about#update-the-app-on-all-your-devices>
>
> No need to reinstall the app. My experience is that if you
> right-click/refresh or close/open the app, your device is instantly updated
> to the latest release. This is not simply "a cached webpage." This is a
> full-blown installed application on par with every other app. When properly
> configured, it should continue to run without Internet access indefinitely.
> And we can add message caching so they'll be uploaded once the Internet is
> accessible.
> Under the Hood <https://rattlegram.k0ozk.com/blog/about#under-the-hood>
>
> Public Repository for this PWA
> <https://github.com/richclingman/rattlegram-pwa>.
>
> This PWA is built using Nuxt3/VueJs3 with its Content module (see the
> simple blog pages), and Bulma CSS/SASS. It's currently hosted on my paid
> Netlify account. Netlify offers free accounts that should support the
> Ribbit development and full deployment.
> How I Discovered Ribbit
> <https://rattlegram.k0ozk.com/blog/about#how-i-discovered-ribbit>
>
> *Just this past weekend,* I came across the Ribbit presentation in the RATPAC
> videos <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGzgIjEt9wA> and have watched
> "every" Ribbit video and tried out the Android Rattlegram app. Awesome!
> Great work on the concept, algorithm, and app. Great presentations! I
> decided to try Ahmet Inan's DSP functions in a PWA to see if it's a viable
> concept. I've worked with Web Audio API, but never combined C++ and
> Javascript to get Web Assembly apps. This is my first real attempt at a
> PWA, so I'm sure there are a lot of things to be enhanced.
> 73 <https://rattlegram.k0ozk.com/blog/about#_73>
>
> I'm a software engineer -- full-stack, back-end, and cloud. And I'm an
> Extra Class Amateur (without much actual radio experience other than 2m).
>
> Rich Clingman, K0OZK <https://k0ozk.com/>
> Ozark, Missouri, USA
>
>
>
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