<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Many members have not received it but it’s a moot point. They claimed it was effective based on postmarks. There are no postmarks. They didn’t pay attention to details. The entire thing can’t be real at this point based on their instruction.<br><br><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: 13pt;">Jeff WE4B</span></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Apr 21, 2021, at 2:55 PM, Robert McGwier <rwmcgwier@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">I have not received this mailing and I have been a life member for decades. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Bob</div><div dir="auto"><br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto"><br>Dr. Robert W McGwier, Ph.D.<br>Adjunct Faculty, Virginia Tech<br>ARDC Member of Board<br>N4HY: ARRL, TAPR, AMSAT, EARC<br>Sky: AAVSO, SkyHub, Auburn AS, Skyscrapers</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 1:00 PM Jeff WE4B via Ground-Station <ground-station@lists.openresearch.institute> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">My bad... they used presorted mail but the end result is the same. There are no postmarks on envelopes and thus the information mailed out is incorrect. <br><br><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:13pt">Jeff WE4B</span></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Apr 21, 2021, at 12:37 PM, Jeff WE4B <<a href="mailto:jeff@we4bravo.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jeff@we4bravo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">The letter says to mail opposition back to AMSAT within X days of the postmark on the AMSAT letter. Because AMSAT used the non-profit postage license, there are no postmarks. This should render all of this as a moot point. Right?<br><br><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:13pt">Jeff WE4B</span></div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Apr 21, 2021, at 12:20 PM, Peter Laws N5UWY via Ground-Station <ground-station@lists.openresearch.institute> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span>What you seem to be summarizing here, Bruce, is an attempt by AMSAT-NA</span><br><span>to codify how they have been operating since at least 2018. I was a</span><br><span>member of an amateur radio satellite related group on a popular social</span><br><span>networking site at the same time that I was a rotating editor of the</span><br><span>ANS weekly bulletin. I was informed by AMSAT-NA that unless I removed</span><br><span>myself from that amateur radio satellite related group on a popular</span><br><span>social networking site and joined a different amateur radio satellite</span><br><span>related group (on the same popular social networking site), I would</span><br><span>have my editorship terminated (or was it my membership? I'd have to</span><br><span>mine old mail).</span><br><span></span><br><span>I asked several times for clarification of their control of my private</span><br><span>dealings and none was ever forthcoming. I ceased to be a rotating</span><br><span>editor of the ANS weekly bulletin shortly thereafter since I declined</span><br><span>to remove myself from that group.</span><br><span></span><br><span>I renewed my membership one more time after that because some people</span><br><span>were running for the AMSAT-NA board that thought, as I did, that this</span><br><span>was a completely ridiculous way to run a hobby organization. Some of</span><br><span>that slate won, but the writing on the wall was so clear, that I have</span><br><span>never had any more interaction with AMSAT-NA. Worse, I've completely</span><br><span>stopped listening to or operating via anyone's amateur radio</span><br><span>satellites since.</span><br><span></span><br><span>For the record, I make a point of referring to AMSAT-NA because I want</span><br><span>to make it clear that there is, to my knowledge, only one "AMSAT"</span><br><span>organization run by petty buffoons and that's AMSAT-NA. I don't want</span><br><span>to, in any way, besmirch the reputations of any of the other</span><br><span>AMSAT-branded organizations like AMSAT-DL or AMSAT-UK, to name two,</span><br><span>who do such important work for the amateur radio satellite community.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Peter</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>-- </span><br><span>Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!</span><br></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div>
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