<div dir="ltr">Let's all of us hams lead a return to optical fiber for consumer equipment, including data networking. It's easy to show that plastic fiber is potentially cheaper than metal, and LEDs and photosensors are cheaper than a wired Ethernet termination with all of the little ferrites etc. While helping the world, we will incidentally reduce RFI for ourselves.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 11:42 AM, Douglas Quagliana <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dquagliana@gmail.com" target="_blank">dquagliana@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">
<div>Hi Bruce,</div><div><br></div><div>New houses are still being built with Cat-5e cabling, if they even have <br></div><div>networking cables in the walls. I was going to jokingly suggest skipping</div><div>the Cat-7 cabling and just waiting for Cat-8, but Cat-8 is apparently <br></div><div>almost ready for release. However it is not intended for general use. <br></div><div>Cat-8 is only for short runs in the data centers. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Maybe just wait for Cat-9 cabling or end-to-end fiber without any</div><div>copper in the data path. After all, it will still be called "Ethernet." :-)<br></div><div><br></div><div>Happy 4th everyone,<br></div><div>Douglas</div><div>(Must...Resist...Puns...With..<wbr>.Cats...And...Nines...)</div>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 12:54 PM, Bruce Perens via Ground-Station <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ground-station@lists.openresearch.institute" target="_blank">ground-station@lists.<wbr>openresearch.institute</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr">OK, tell me why I'm an idiot :-) <a href="https://perens.com/2018/07/03/how-should-you-ground-your-shielded-ethernet-cable/" target="_blank">https://perens.com/2018/07<wbr>/03/how-should-you-ground-your<wbr>-shielded-ethernet-cable/</a><span class="m_2495600862597574103HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="m_2495600862597574103m_-3150305166183740053gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Bruce Perens K6BP - CEO, Legal Engineering<br>Standards committee chair, license review committee member, co-founder, Open Source Initiative<div>President, Open Research Institute; Board Member, Fashion Freedom Initiative.<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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