[Ground-station] AMSAT "Don't Rock the Boat" rule

Martin Flynn Martin.Flynn at isec.space
Tue Apr 20 18:04:47 PDT 2021


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On 4/20/2021 8:48 PM, Bruce Perens via Ground-Station wrote:
> Written objection, in a paper stamped letter must be received from at 
> least 10% of the members within 30 days of the postmark, or they will 
> go ahead. IMO, that's engineered to prevent any viable objection.
>
> The address on the top of the letter is
> Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT)
> 712 H Street NE, Ste 1653
> Washington DC 20002
>
> I really wonder if anyone is at that address any longer.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 5:42 PM Bruce Perens <bruce at perens.com 
> <mailto:bruce at perens.com>> wrote:
>
>     IMO you can't claim to represent US Radio Amateurs regarding
>     satellite issues if you are selective about who you represent. So,
>     if this is enacted we should talk with ARRL, IARU (and maybe even
>     ITU) about their no longer qualifying as a national organization.
>
>     ARRL can expel a member for cause (in Articles of Association, not
>     Bylaws), but it requires notice and an opportunity to be heard,
>     and I am not aware that in a century of history anyone has
>     involuntarily lost their ARRL membership for anything but not
>     paying dues. In addition, ARRL claims to represent all US
>     Amateurs, so they have to listen to non-members.
>
>         Thanks
>
>         Bruce
>
>     On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 5:38 PM Michelle Thompson
>     <mountain.michelle at gmail.com <mailto:mountain.michelle at gmail.com>>
>     wrote:
>
>         Understood. ORI board is currently in session and I'll ask
>         them to help write something on paper and find a stamp and
>         send it to all the addresses listed.
>
>         Here's some background. There was a bylaws committee.
>         Ironically, I'm the one that made the motion to establish it.
>         The committee was tasked with fixing the electronic voting
>         "problem", in that the wording of the bylaws was kind of not
>         great and needed to be modernized.
>
>         Those bylaws revisions, from that committee, were accompanied
>         by a nice report from Brennan Price (the secretary at the
>         time) explaining the rules changes. Those bylaws are not the
>         ones that appeared for a short-notice vote this past March.
>         Those original bylaws revisions were skipped over.
>
>         Instead, these "Don't Rock the Boat" rules, along with the 3
>         year membership requirement to run for the board, were
>         substituted in the week prior. There was no accompanying
>         explanation or writeup.
>
>         There are no regular board meetings at AMSAT. They are only
>         ad-hoc meetings like this.
>
>         Choosing members is what this is about. There's no definition
>         of "undesirable", there's no procedure here, and there's no
>         hearing, or appeal, or any of the other mechanisms that exist
>         in every other club or organization bylaws that I'm aware of.
>         This is subjective as written. There's ways to write
>         membership removal rules.
>
>         The "3 year minimum membership to run for the board" rule
>         works in here because once your membership is interrupted,
>         then the clock starts over and you can't run for 3 more years.
>
>         There isn't any reason to require a 3 year membership to run
>         for the board. The vast majority of people that have run
>         recently are life members or long-serving. Honestly, I think
>         it would help the board to have recent members elected.
>
>         I objected to these bylaws being substituted in instead of
>         what I considered to be the authentic committee work. I
>         pointed out that without standards/cause, a process, and an
>         appeal that these rules were way too easily abused.
>
>         In order to stop this, according to Patrick Stoddard, 10% of
>         the members would have to object in writing. Without a
>         coordinated campaign and spending some money, I do not believe
>         that enough members will clue in to this in time.
>
>         I believe they'll "review" ORI's Member Society membership as
>         soon as it comes up. It is really sad to see things like this
>         happen, but it's not surprising given the other choices
>         leadership has made since the Reno Symposium.
>
>         We should object to these rules and be prepared to simply be
>         eliminated as a Member Society. Currently, senior leadership
>         refuses to even list us in the AMSAT Directory with the other
>         Member Societies, has interfered with presentations at AMSAT
>         Symposium, and has interfered with our news submissions to ANS
>         Bulletin. I believe AMSAT should be holding up its end of the
>         bargain as the major advocacy organization in amateur
>         satellite, and actively helping us, supporting our work, and
>         being fair and kind to our volunteers. Most of which happen to
>         also be AMSAT members. This bylaws revision is not the right
>         direction.
>
>         We need to stay focused on publishing good work and helping
>         projects in our space be successful. We offer no threat or
>         harm to AMSAT. Our work directly benefits AMSAT in a wide
>         variety of ways. In the future, things may improve. In the
>         meantime, sending a paper letter objecting to the bylaws would
>         be a positive step.
>
>         Thank you for bringing this up, Bruce. If you have any
>         specific advice on constructive wording and instructions on
>         exactly what the "right" address is, to avoid any misdirected
>         mail, then that might be helpful to those reading.
>
>         -Michelle W5NYV
>
>
>
>
>         On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 4:49 PM Bruce Perens via
>         Ground-Station <ground-station at lists.openresearch.institute>
>         wrote:
>
>             ORI is an AMSAT member organization, and I submit that ORI
>             should file a written objection to the proposed AMSAT
>             "Don't Rock the Boat" rule.
>
>
>                   Bruce Perens <bruce at perens.com
>                   <mailto:bruce at perens.com>>
>
>             	
>             4:44 PM (1 minute ago)
>             	
>             	
>             to AMSAT
>
>             The proposed modifications to the bylaws of AMSAT include
>             a provision for the secretary and the board members to
>             deny membership renewal to any member or member society.
>             This is included in Article 1, Section 2. The new rule is:
>
>             Section 2. Applications for membership or renewal as
>             Member or Member Society shall be submitted to and in the
>             manner prescribed by the Secretary. *In the case of any
>             applicant whose character, reputation, or conduct might
>             make him or her an undesirable member, the Secretary shall
>             refer the application to the Board of Directors (the
>             "Board") for review; in all other cases, the Secretary
>             shall have the authority to grant membership.*
>
>             Obviously, this is aimed at the folks who dared to
>             challenge the board (and win) in a democratic election,
>             and of course me, for daring to campaign for them. It is a
>             fact that many non-profit boards have never learned about
>             the fact that there /should/ be contentious elections -
>             that's what democracy is about. They just see them as a
>             threat. So, here's a rather undemocratic rule which allows
>             them to purge opposition, so that they will not be able to
>             vote in the next election.
>
>             Because the board doesn't want you to interfere with their
>             addition of this rule, they have required that you
>             register any objection to this, and other new rules, by
>             writing a letter on paper and mailing it with a stamp.
>             Objections you post to this list and the AMSAT BBS are
>             useful for discussion and I encourage you to do so, but
>             the board will not count them.
>
>             -- 
>             uce Perens - Board Partner, OSS Capital LLC Venture Capital
>
>
>
>     -- 
>     Bruce Perens - CEO at stealth startup. I'll tell you what it is
>     eventually :-)
>
>
>
> -- 
> Bruce Perens - CEO at stealth startup. I'll tell you what it is 
> eventually :-)
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