<div dir="ltr">How about today?<br><br>I have noon Pacific to 4:30pm. <br><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">-Michelle W5NYV<br><br><div dir="ltr"><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 12:50 PM Rosy Wolfe <<a href="mailto:rosy@ampr.org">rosy@ampr.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Cool! Let's talk sometime soon. Please let me know when you have <br>
availability.<br>
<br>
On my end, today is a bit nutty, I have availability, though, Tues-Thurs <br>
this week.<br>
<br>
Looking forward,<br>
Rosy<br>
<br>
Rosy Wolfe - KJ7RYV<br>
Executive Director<br>
Amateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC)<br>
<a href="http://ampr.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ampr.org</a><br>
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On 5/3/21 8:56 AM, Michelle Thompson wrote:<br>
> There's a lot going on with what you're asking for here.<br>
> <br>
> "I would love to have a more guided discussion with people in<br>
> our community about the future of amateur radio and digital<br>
> communications, so that ARDC can best strategize around meeting goals<br>
> that meet a more collective vision. We've done some of that with our<br>
> survey, but this would be a more selected group of major players in the<br>
> space.<br>
> <br>
> I would love it if you and/or others at ORI would be interested in<br>
> participating in such a visioning session, and curious whether you would<br>
> be open to doing it online vs. in-person. (Consider it may be a 5-hour<br>
> event, or a couple 2-3 hour events.)"<br>
> <br>
> This needs a phone call to talk about.<br>
> <br>
> -Michelle W5NYV<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 6:29 PM Rosy Wolfe <<a href="mailto:rosy@ampr.org" target="_blank">rosy@ampr.org</a> <br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rosy@ampr.org" target="_blank">rosy@ampr.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Hi all,<br>
> <br>
> Michelle, thanks for including me on this mail. I agree with many of<br>
> the<br>
> ideas that you've put forth - particularly that it's a TON of work to<br>
> put on a conference (much less one that happens multiple times a year),<br>
> that it would be helpful to gauge the interest of our grantees before<br>
> inviting them to such a thing, and that there could be a power<br>
> differential at play for the grantees. Additionally, I think we can<br>
> consider using Zulip (an open source version of Slack) for<br>
> communications with the community. There is already discussion of<br>
> setting one up.<br>
> <br>
> re: Phil's email, ARDC is in the *really* early stages of thinking<br>
> about<br>
> gatherings of any sort, given that we have a ways to go before we are<br>
> truly out of Pandemic Land (TM). One thing is we definitely need to do<br>
> an internal offsite. Additionally, and perhaps in conjunction with the<br>
> offsite, I would love to have a more guided discussion with people in<br>
> our community about the future of amateur radio and digital<br>
> communications, so that ARDC can best strategize around meeting goals<br>
> that meet a more collective vision. We've done some of that with our<br>
> survey, but this would be a more selected group of major players in the<br>
> space.<br>
> <br>
> I would love it if you and/or others at ORI would be interested in<br>
> participating in such a visioning session, and curious whether you<br>
> would<br>
> be open to doing it online vs. in-person. (Consider it may be a 5-hour<br>
> event, or a couple 2-3 hour events.)<br>
> <br>
> In terms of a networking event like the one Phil is describing, I could<br>
> see doing something like that in conjunction with an existing<br>
> conference, such as TAPR DCC or similar. I've organized similar events<br>
> when I was in the open source mapping world, holding Maptime gatherings<br>
> and karaoke along with State of the Map, for example. PS - one of my<br>
> favorite things is to get a bunch of nerds together for karaoke. You've<br>
> all been warned! And for when it happens - you're welcome ;)<br>
> <br>
> In any case, as this mail indicates, we have some thinking (and<br>
> hiring!)<br>
> to do before putting together any events. In the meantime, please do<br>
> let<br>
> me know if you'd have interest in participating in a visioning session,<br>
> online or IRL. Your insight there would be, as always, greatly<br>
> appreciated.<br>
> <br>
> All the best and 73,<br>
> Rosy<br>
> <br>
> Rosy Wolfe - KJ7RYV<br>
> Executive Director<br>
> Amateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC)<br>
> <a href="http://ampr.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ampr.org</a> <<a href="http://ampr.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://ampr.org</a>><br>
> <br>
> On 4/26/21 1:51 PM, Michelle Thompson wrote:<br>
> > Phil,<br>
> ><br>
> > I agree that putting grantees in contact with each other is a great<br>
> > idea, but I think that there are ways to do this which are much more<br>
> > frictionless than a conference.<br>
> ><br>
> > Conferences are generally organized around a shared topic, and<br>
> > networking is a secondary effect. It sounds like you want<br>
> networking to<br>
> > be the primary reason that people attend, and this leaves me<br>
> wondering<br>
> > what the common interest is in presentations. What is the<br>
> > motivation/reward for people putting work into presentations?<br>
> What is<br>
> > the likely outcome?<br>
> ><br>
> > There's a similar ecosystem we can look to for guidance here on<br>
> > networking, and that's the venture capital (VC) community. VCs<br>
> like Y<br>
> > Combinator (and others) have set up mailing lists and forums (using<br>
> > discord, slack, and other tools) to allow free networking between<br>
> their<br>
> > 'alumni'. This is a much lower barrier for participation, and allows<br>
> > information exchange outside of a formal process (conferences)<br>
> that not<br>
> > everyone will have the time or inclination to participate in.<br>
> ><br>
> > Putting on a conference is a lot of work, as is answering the<br>
> questions<br>
> > in your email. I don't have time to address those for ARDC. You<br>
> should<br>
> > look to your own board members, who collectively have much more<br>
> > experience than I do.<br>
> ><br>
> > I'd suggest gauging interest among your grantees before planning any<br>
> > conferences. It's their interest that will make a successful<br>
> > conference. Since the power differential between ARDC and grant<br>
> > recipients is so large, any request from ARDC will probably be<br>
> > interpreted as a requirement, and that will complicate the<br>
> answers. That<br>
> > is one reason why VC firms do the things they do, in terms of alumni<br>
> > support.<br>
> ><br>
> > -Michelle W5NYV<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 1:18 AM Phil Karn <<a href="mailto:karn@ka9q.net" target="_blank">karn@ka9q.net</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:karn@ka9q.net" target="_blank">karn@ka9q.net</a>><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:karn@ka9q.net" target="_blank">karn@ka9q.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:karn@ka9q.net" target="_blank">karn@ka9q.net</a>>>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Hi Michelle, we haven't chatted in quite some time. How are you?<br>
> ><br>
> > At recent ARDC board meetings I've been talking up the idea of a<br>
> > periodic conference to which all our grantees would be<br>
> invited. This<br>
> > would not only help bring the ARDC Board and Grant Advisory<br>
> Committees<br>
> > up to speed on what they've been doing, but let ARDC grantees<br>
> meet each<br>
> > other. I personally think this is very important given our<br>
> focus on a<br>
> > diverse set of projects and groups.<br>
> ><br>
> > I will strongly insist on not overloading the schedule with<br>
> too much<br>
> > formal time. I have always thought that ad-hoc dinners and<br>
> late nights<br>
> > in hotel bars are often the most productive parts of any<br>
> technical<br>
> > conference. You can always watch a video of a talk or read a<br>
> formal<br>
> > paper at home whenever you want, and ask questions by email.<br>
> I want<br>
> > people to come to do the things that are best done in person.<br>
> After a<br>
> > whole year on Zoom I think we now have a better idea of what<br>
> those<br>
> > things are.<br>
> ><br>
> > There's solid support on the Board for this idea, but it's<br>
> still at a<br>
> > VERY early stage of discussion. We have no idea where or even<br>
> when we<br>
> > could hold such an event given Covid. (The first would<br>
> probably be in<br>
> > the US but we'd definitely want to hold some elsewhere, probably<br>
> > starting in Europe.) But since ORI is one of ARDC's biggest<br>
> grantees<br>
> > (and you have a lot of personal experience in organizing<br>
> conferences)<br>
> > I'd like your opinions.<br>
> ><br>
> > How how big a block of time would ORI need to give *capsule*<br>
> overviews<br>
> > of all its various projects? Note the emphasis on "capsule".<br>
> My thinking<br>
> > here is to present in the general style of an article for QST,<br>
> > Communications of the ACM or IEEE Spectrum, i.e., assume a<br>
> general<br>
> > technical background in computers, space, electrical<br>
> engineering and/or<br>
> > radio communications but NOT specialist knowledge in a particular<br>
> > subfield, e.g., speech compression or digital satellite<br>
> communications.<br>
> ><br>
> > I also don't think we'd have time for detailed formal<br>
> tutorials. The<br>
> > talks should focus on YOUR work -- the specific problem<br>
> you're trying to<br>
> > solve, what approaches you took, what you've done so far,<br>
> work yet to be<br>
> > done, etc. What worked? More importantly, what did NOT work,<br>
> technically<br>
> > or organizationally? Again, focus on what YOU have done or<br>
> plan to do,<br>
> > as opposed to general overviews of a field. (Do provide links to<br>
> > overviews, tutorials, deep technical details, etc, for those<br>
> > interested.)<br>
> ><br>
> > How many speakers from ORI would be involved? How many more<br>
> would come<br>
> > who wouldn't give formal presentations but could benefit from<br>
> attending?<br>
> > I'm thinking mainly of younger volunteers (especially<br>
> students) without<br>
> > a lot of experience who could be motivated by an in-person<br>
> event like<br>
> > this. ARDC could probably be persuaded to provide financial<br>
> assistance<br>
> > for travel as needed. As you know, ARDC's very first grant<br>
> was for<br>
> > travel scholarships to the 2019 ARRL/TAPR DCC in Detroit that<br>
> brought<br>
> > some students with the HamSci project from Case Western.<br>
> Having talked<br>
> > with many of them, I think it was money very well spent. (I'd<br>
> forgotten<br>
> > how much energy I had at that age.)<br>
> ><br>
> > Please forward this to anybody you know who could also<br>
> provide some<br>
> > advice here.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > --Phil<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> <br>
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